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you're locked into inception radio

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Radio go through pain radio why Cooper

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welcome everybody to paying radio

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tonight is the winter solstice December

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21st 2014 sunday night welcome to our

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show we got a good one in store for you

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tonight chase koletzki is joining us

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she's an independent researcher author

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um jasa she's she's investigating the

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air all the realms of you apology and in

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skulls and Bigfoot I mean she she's

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going to be a great show she's all over

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the US doing investigations with

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different groups and she's gonna be

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really really good to talk to she was uh

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on Iran a few few years ago how to show

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with us but I mean she's great can't

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wait to have her on here in a second and

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my co-host can is here with me how you

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doing can hey I'm doing fine and welcome

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everybody and I hope our chat listeners

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get their fingers warmed up because this

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as MJ said this is going to be a

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interesting show is going to be an open

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forum we're going to start out and see

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where it leads and hopefully our

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listeners will chime in and direct the

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conversation but this is going to be

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good chase is a good investigator I

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think we're going to find this very

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interesting we'll definitely open the

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lines to tonight if you want to call in

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80 to 89 192 355 if you have a question

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for Chase you definitely call in and she

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will answer any questions too so we'll

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even open the lines tonight can and just

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have a lot of fun with this oh yeah it's

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gonna be great I'm looking forward to it

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I'm excited as a matter of fact she's a

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good researcher she's a good

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investigator and I think that our

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listening audience will find the

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information that she has not only

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interesting but useful so sit down turn

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the volume up and get involved folks

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there you go it's what it's all about

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can you got any shoutouts tonight I do

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to have a shout out to George and Patty

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really had a good time we went down to

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Branson Missouri over the weekend and

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they had a really really good time saw

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some really good shows and I know that

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Mindy and Larry are tuning in and that

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goes for chance and Doug I know you're

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out there up there in hartsville

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Missouri

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so i chime in your questions and looking

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forward to the show definitely and I

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like to shout out to my favorite other

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mother debra anderson in duluth

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minnesota and my body my buddy good good

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great family friends jeff and julie can

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Tarak listening to us out at Lake

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hammock on Wisconsin nice little lake

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big muskie in that Lake can i've seen so

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ever never caught one but i'll tell you

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i've had a few big logs uh do you know

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come up to the pontoon when we've been

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out on it so fun fishing out there yeah

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I've caught a couple of muskies and they

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definitely got a set of teeth on them

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that will get your attention and I got

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one more short out she got out and

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that's to Lorna Hunter a big I know

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she's tuned in and Lorna I know you're

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getting ready for some snow girl but you

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hang in there that's what I that's what

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I just read we're gonna get some good

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snow here for three days up north here

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so I think so you're gonna have a white

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Christmas buddy oh yeah we are oh yeah

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we are definitely and uh next week we

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are we will be off the air because you

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know we're gonna celebrate you know the

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festivities as christmas and new years

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but can we do have Nancy tell about

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coming back for a question answer

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session so you can go yet notebook out

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on you know our january for show so you

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get that notebook out and just hit her

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up with all the questions and miss just

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i'm looking at the questions as we speak

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so i'm looking forward to it yeah i'm so

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she's gonna be talking about you know

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we're gonna hit her up with some

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scientific questions and then we're also

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going to know ask her more about Robert

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Robert the one that can predict the in

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Holland in Holland yep mean crop circles

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so he's we're definitely gonna have

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questions for him too we may get him on

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the year I haven't confirmed that with

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Nancy but there also could be a fourth

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edition of that if we got him on for a

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fourth shell so definitely could get

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right to the roots of how he's able to

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predict crop circles and see people's

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spirits and ghosts in all that kind of

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jazz could be pretty pretty cool there I

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think so ken that was an interesting

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email you sent me this week to with the

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Bigfoot sightings yeah I didn't realize

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but in doing further research research

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Pennsylvania is leading the country

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right now in the number of bigfoot

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sightings i found that kind of

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interesting and they dropped off a

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little bit in the Pacific Northwest so I

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don't know what that means if it means

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anything at all maybe it is just as not

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many people out in the woods or you know

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having those chance encounters but yeah

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I thought that was an interesting

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segment I sent you I i found that and

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that came from Warner also so appreciate

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that Lorna keep us posted yeah i was

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looking there to there wasn't many

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reports in wisconsin so it's pretty

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quiet over here in see well he's out

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there he's always out there yeah yeah

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she or he and like i said i have a

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little bit of a hotspot to witness

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claiming to see a bipedal creature to

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probably about 30 miles south here i've

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been out to the property a few times ken

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haven't came across anything but i'm not

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saying there isn't anything out there

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it's it's a perfect environment with

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he's right along a river so there's

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access to water and lot of aries and

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fish trout in there and my major

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definitely a slow night you know I in

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and since my encounter in western

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Pennsylvania a number of years ago with

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the Oklahoma UFO paranormal team I i

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have really educated myself on the

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phenomena and I've learned a lot I and

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there are things that I look for that I

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probably saw in the past but did not

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realize what it was that i was looking

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at so i'm i'm i'm a little bit more

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tuned in if you will what was chase out

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there for that investigation with you no

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no she was supposed to come again to

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circumstances beyond her control she she

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missed it and unfortunately because it

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would have been I would have loved to

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have had her there just to experience

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what went down but yeah and we'll get

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into that tonight we can we can go down

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any road we want so and she's agreeable

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to talk about anything and everything so

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this ought to be interesting I think you

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came on her show that following weekend

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in LA and you know he kind of a released

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the news of you seeing that yeah

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call if it was a UH if it was live or it

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was taped but yeah I did I basically

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went on her show and told exactly how it

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went down and what transpired hmm and

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you haven't heard anything bet heard

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anything back about that area seeing any

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type of creatures oh no I actually I

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have we got a report a book now this is

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kind of interesting a creature bipedal

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or des bois Pennsylvania and what was

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interesting is that it was a close

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personal encounter like mine but this

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individual said the creature had a face

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like a dog had a long pointy nose and in

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a face that resembled a canine which I

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found kind of interesting dad's uh

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that's interesting too because there

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have been reports of a dog man in the

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southern part of Wisconsin here too yeah

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well I was you beat me to the other MJ

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and I was going to make that inference

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that there have been reports up there in

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the in the north about a dog man type

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creature whether or not it's related

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whether or not it's similar I have no

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you know nothing to add to that other

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than the fact that I found it kind of

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interesting that had a similar

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description very cool okay can i'm ready

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i'm going to tell everybody a little

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about chase read off her bio here chase

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chase turned her master trainer master

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instructor title while she while

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employed with the Department of the vent

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defense armed with a biomechanical

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engineer accreditation she was

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responsible for designing specialized

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programs and supervision of complete

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success regarding force readiness unique

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mission responsibilities and elite force

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protection wow that is that is great

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this was achieved by outstanding

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buy-outs understanding the goals and

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requirements placed on physical and

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mental strength assignments which are

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demanded and expected of today's active

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duty members and civilian anti-terrorist

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units

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she joined the mutual UFO network in

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manager and deputy director of

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investigations to 2011 she was

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protocols and investigation procedures

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investigators and access to most

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sensitive and complex cases reported to

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MUFON she does she also as an author she

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does a show called where are we there

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we'll go down a little bit their

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encounters you know and she's on with

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so she's uh she's a really into this and

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she had a good experience to can to that

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with went while she was with MUFON to

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she may tell the listeners about that

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too that was a yeah I'm hoping that we

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can get her to talk a little bit about

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what happened to her I think was in

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Kentucky if i'm not mistaken mm-hmm uh

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in which she had a close encounter with

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the with a extraterrestrial being she

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sure did and I and her and I've talked

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about that and we'll see well you know

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like I said well we'll go where she

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wants and she told me that you know

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she'll answer any and all questions and

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if we go to a place where she doesn't

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watch she'll tell us oh definitely and

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we already have a we already have a

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question from bill from New York let me

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throw that in the chat window there too

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so we don't lose that one let's see

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there there we go hello good evening

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chase it's been a while good to hear

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your voice you too have Jay how are you

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I'm doing great how are you not too bad

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things are good that is good Ken's here

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too with me yeah chase thanks for coming

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on tonight we appreciate it darlin

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what's up hey girl and I we were telling

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our listeners that this was going to be

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an open type forum question and answer

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and wherever the discussion goes that's

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okay with you perfect perfect right on

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um hey you're located in atlanta georgia

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right yes I did southeast Georgia

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southeast Georgia and so let's just

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start off with the

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fact that being down there close to

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Florida and there's been a number of

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sightings concerning a bipedal creature

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have you had any additional information

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in regards to that though the swamp ape

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is usually what's reported in this area

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and he's really described more ape-like

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versus what a Bigfoot is typically a yo

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he's shorter he definitely has more

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monkey features and of course there's

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the stories of circus quite a while ago

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that actually lost its animals so we're

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not really too sure about what's going

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on with the Florida skunk ape but I do

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live right here and in my backyard as

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you know can I have you know there's a

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dock and write out our the Golden Isles

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and I could see Jekyll Island and st.

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Simons Island but there's a very very

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popular cryptid hair and his name is all

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T and he looks very much like the same

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type of water cryptid as you see in Loch

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Ness and lamp lake champlain and he's

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known bid reported back with the

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Altamaha Indians pre-columbian so he's

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quite the fixture here he's called the

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Darien sea monster the Darien sea

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monster ever heard it literally two

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miles from my house the hottest white

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girl ago I know I know I'm like thank

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friggin goodness i moved to an area with

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something going on right right well you

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know you bring up an interesting aspect

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on the skunk ape Bigfoot Yeti Sasquatch

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swamp monster and that is and and i

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truly believe this and this and i say

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this in conjunction with what happened

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to me in western Pennsylvania but I

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think what a lot of people are seeing

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down in Alabama southern Texas

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Mississippi Florida and and probably in

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southern Georgia is that I think there's

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been a number of primates that have

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either been turned loose or escaped as a

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result of hurricane

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Hurricane Andrew came through I think

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the Miami zoo lost most of their

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primates did it and not to have them

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recovered right and that's a band that's

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a I mean you live in it or you know that

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environment in that and that pardon the

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pun neck of the woods was would support

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primates you know they would be

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perfectly able to adapt to the

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Everglades to the type of climate and in

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the terrain that that that occurs down

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there so I I think that a lot of what

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people are seeing in fact there was a

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picture if you recall that were certain

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circulating on the internet of a woman

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that took picture of supposedly Bigfoot

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going through a Dipsy dumpster when I

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looked at it I thought it was an

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orangutang exactly exactly and that's

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really very popular Harry even the

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footprints of the Florida swamp ape is

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it looks more primate than it does you

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know like the cast that you have and you

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know that's one of the best Bigfoot

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stories I've ever heard um and I was on

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the phone with you what ten minutes

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after this event oh hell I think I think

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it was within minutes after it happened

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because you were supposed to have been

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there on that on that on that

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investigation yes but to hear it

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firsthand like seriously minutes after

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it happened was was very very epic

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because again I can cooperate you know

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the story has it changed you know just

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yeah you were crazy freaking hysterical

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it was awesome are you saying that I

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that I was out of control well you know

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what I think I was you were so stunned

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and it was so it was really fun can

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because you didn't believe in Bigfoot in

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any way shape or form in fact we had had

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conversations about it well you know

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what I and I have told people that of

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course you know they kind of like you

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know turned her back and rolled her eyes

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and everything but it's true we had

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talked your or so before that and it was

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just a passing conversation and I made

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mention of the fact that I've been all

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over the United States

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into puerto rico guam Southeast Asia

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Alaska and and I'm an outdoors person

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I'm not somebody that sits behind a desk

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and I don't mean that negatively but my

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personality is I have to be outside and

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I had not seen anything now looking back

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on some of these things chase you know

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III have since been educated because I

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was ignorant of the of the facts

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concerning Bigfoot or Yeti I and I

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probably saw some things but i didn't

382
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know what i was looking at you

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understand what I'm saying I mean I I

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want to go back yeah if I were to go

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back now 15-20 years ago in some of the

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territory that I had been camping in and

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hunting in I probably saw some things

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that would indicate to me that there was

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another creature in the woods besides

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deer and elk and bear and mountain lions

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and I'm accustomed to see him and uh you

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know that's a huge background in hunting

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and you know it's just your lifestyle

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this is something you're very

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comfortable with out in the woods so you

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know someone like me you know little

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girl from Rhode Island you know I'm out

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and you know the thick of Kentucky woods

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near the coal mines and I hear a twig

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snap my heart's pounded and I'm like and

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I know guys it's most likely a raccoon

402
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but that moment I live for that moment

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it's like whoa it's like what and you

404
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know you bring of it well you're you

405
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bring up at an interesting part a point

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is that a lot of sounds that people here

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and you know I and now you know I i have

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heard recordings of the of the you know

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Bigfoot whoop wood knocking some other

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communication aspects of it and I and I

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can't specifically go back in my memory

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and say that well I heard something that

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I didn't recognize but the woods does

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make a lot of strange sounds and

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especially at night yeah i just i love

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it and you know like you and I the times

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i'm in the woods you know the kind of

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terrain that

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would expect a Bigfoot creature to do

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well in I'm only there on that specific

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agenda but i love it i hear a wolf like

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that I'm freaking out excited and I have

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that's the one thing I have had I have

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not seen a Bigfoot what well it you know

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I i think i am blessed in the end the

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reefs in the aspect of you know that was

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probably once-in-a-lifetime encounter

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given the number of times i spent in the

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mount of time that I spend outdoors and

430
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yet you know i like i said i started

431
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reading about at some of the encounters

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and there's been people driving down the

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highway and seen this thing run across a

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four-lane highway for crying out loud so

435
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it doesn't necessarily mean that you

436
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have to be out there eating pine cones

437
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and chasing squirrels they have an

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encounter battle of chases squirrels

439
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yeah they like to hide their nuts I know

440
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that hey Jay so we we were keeping an

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open and we've got a question from Billy

442
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in New York and as they come in it may

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change the direction as this one will

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probably will but yeah I like i said

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it's open forum so we're going to run

446
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with the ball as it been tossed and he

447
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says MJ with your background and defense

448
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do you think that our government should

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create a new division strictly for anti

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cyber terrorism that's kind of an

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interesting subject um was that for me

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or empty I think that was for Chase I

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think it must've copied MJ when I pulled

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it from the chat yeah that it is for

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choice for Chase yeah oh okay um

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absolutely cyber terrorism that the

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threats that come from our internet and

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i believe it's where we're most

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vulnerable and i speak for myself I have

460
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a computer problem and nothing puts me

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on a Ledge faster than that I am ready

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to jump I have no idea how to fix these

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things you know you would think

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especially as a ufologist I I would have

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been doing this forever but you know

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I've just learned to go on to the

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internet

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you know through onion sites and and

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only using tor you know I mean it's not

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I don't use the same internet anymore as

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I used to but I just got here guys

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that's how slow I am on figuring this

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stuff out but yes absolutely the

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government and the military needs cyber

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terrorism unit what I fear is again you

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know to what extent as long as they're

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fighting back we know that there are

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units within NSA CIA you know every

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alphabets got you know its cyber

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counterterrorism unit just to get these

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hacking but you know today I just I was

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a little embarrassed when you know North

483
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Korea could put us on our knees over a

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friggin movie oh yeah you know yes

485
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rattling these savers across that we're

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gonna shut your electrical grid down

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because we can and you know we're gonna

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you know bomb you guys like 911 I you

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know it's kind of one of those moments

490
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where it's like too soon yeah North

491
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Korea a little too soon to keep bringing

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up 911 you know it's so I I do think

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that they should have one however I do

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suspect that almost you know like I said

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every alphabet agency has has has a unit

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that i know of now at least well you

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know that leads us into an area that i

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am fascinated with and i know very

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little about and that is the cyber space

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as its referred to or cyber warfare now

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but but you know i watch both movies of

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the matrix okay and and and that's you

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know and and i'm sorry but that's the

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part that Hollywood has influenced my

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image of cyberspace and I you know I i

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was just i just learned that they they

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be in NASA sent a email to the space

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station and through a printer 3d printer

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they made a ratchet that they were able

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to use to do some repairs on the space

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station instead of actually sending a

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ratchet

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yeah wrench they sent it through the

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email yeah i love this i have to tell

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you the first thing i want to say about

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that is where's my frickin food

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replicator if we can do it because that

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would make this house wifes job a lot

519
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easier but um you know that's

520
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interesting because that was Star Trek I

521
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mean I go to the regulator and get

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drinks and food and stuff and you know

523
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you think about it that's what that 3d

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printer basically is doing is

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replicating a wrench I guess you can

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build a gun somebody was telling me that

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you can do a you can build a firearm

528
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using the 3d that's incredible I mean

529
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you think about it and and there is

530
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another form of that could be given the

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right to know how and and technicalities

532
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on it that cyber terrorism cyber warfare

533
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can if you can create a ratchet what

534
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else can you create exactly and well the

535
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only thing about the cyber terrorism or

536
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the latest threats from North Korea you

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know what my opinion is you know we just

538
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weren't looking guys it's kind of

539
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:11,660
reminds me of you know when Pakistan

540
00:24:16,690 --> 00:24:13,730
tested a nuclear weapon you know some

541
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:16,700
guy was sitting at the CIA gone oh crap

542
00:24:21,490 --> 00:24:19,370
how the f did we miss that you know and

543
00:24:24,460 --> 00:24:21,500
they're all scrambling like they were so

544
00:24:26,170 --> 00:24:24,470
focused on you know other countries you

545
00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:26,180
know all of a sudden here's Pakistan and

546
00:24:31,330 --> 00:24:28,310
so I'm thinking that this whole thing

547
00:24:34,270 --> 00:24:31,340
with Korea hack and Sony you know just

548
00:24:37,230 --> 00:24:34,280
we have defenses we have counter

549
00:24:40,180 --> 00:24:37,240
programs that I I think this wasn't

550
00:24:42,670 --> 00:24:40,190
something we need to worry about as a

551
00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:42,680
country or national defense I think

552
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:44,060
somebody just wasn't paying attention

553
00:24:48,460 --> 00:24:46,370
these big corporations get hacked all

554
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:48,470
the time but you know I think it was the

555
00:24:55,060 --> 00:24:52,970
rhetoric or the audacity of a country to

556
00:24:56,380 --> 00:24:55,070
openly hit us because you know they

557
00:24:59,400 --> 00:24:56,390
didn't like something we were putting

558
00:25:01,720 --> 00:24:59,410
out so well you know I was going to

559
00:25:04,570 --> 00:25:01,730
interject here real quick and this is

560
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:04,580
something that very very very few people

561
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:07,370
either don't realize they certainly

562
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:11,360
don't talk about it and that is we're

563
00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:13,760
technically still at war with North

564
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:16,220
Korea all we did was sign an armistice

565
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:19,250
which means okay I won't shoot at you

566
00:25:21,509 --> 00:25:20,320
today

567
00:25:24,629 --> 00:25:21,519
but that doesn't mean that the war is

568
00:25:26,430 --> 00:25:24,639
not still going on yeah people don't

569
00:25:29,549 --> 00:25:26,440
realize that no it's just an armistice

570
00:25:32,730 --> 00:25:29,559
okay and so for North Korea to do this

571
00:25:35,009 --> 00:25:32,740
is not a real surprise at least not to

572
00:25:37,019 --> 00:25:35,019
me and I can't imagine that somebody in

573
00:25:41,070 --> 00:25:37,029
a Defense Department would be overly

574
00:25:44,399 --> 00:25:41,080
surprised at North Korea did a you know

575
00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:44,409
a Howdy Doody on the internet for all

576
00:25:51,419 --> 00:25:47,529
four it's over worst friggin brats and

577
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:51,429
the you know girls of attention every

578
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:53,769
time there's something big going on that

579
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:56,320
truly needs the attention North Korea

580
00:26:02,279 --> 00:25:58,210
starts kicking its feet nobody's paying

581
00:26:04,889 --> 00:26:02,289
attention to us like Hello it just it's

582
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:04,899
it does crack me up I I have to laugh

583
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:07,809
sometimes although I think this is where

584
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:10,690
some of our biggest problems are those

585
00:26:14,610 --> 00:26:12,610
little areas where we're not paying

586
00:26:16,499 --> 00:26:14,620
attention I believe that was 911 you

587
00:26:19,049 --> 00:26:16,509
know all of a sudden yeah we're pulling

588
00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:19,059
planes out of the sky nobody saw those

589
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:21,190
planes coming to the Trade Towers and

590
00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:23,529
and we're watching live as the second

591
00:26:30,210 --> 00:26:26,220
one hits a people were just dumbfounded

592
00:26:32,850 --> 00:26:30,220
so I think this big net weight cast for

593
00:26:35,249 --> 00:26:32,860
national security has cost us a lot of

594
00:26:37,379 --> 00:26:35,259
freedoms but unfortunately you can't

595
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:37,389
have one without the other guys we have

596
00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:39,730
a caller caller 805 what's your name

597
00:26:47,610 --> 00:26:43,929
were you calling from all right Mara yep

598
00:26:50,009 --> 00:26:47,620
you're on oh hey I didn't hear okay yeah

599
00:26:52,820 --> 00:26:50,019
i heard chase before in another program

600
00:26:57,060 --> 00:26:52,830
i chase are you doing hey how are you

601
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:57,070
I'm doing great I can't believe I

602
00:27:01,139 --> 00:26:58,720
actually got through to talk to you

603
00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:01,149
because last time I heard you you're

604
00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:04,750
telling of the people about a triangular

605
00:27:11,399 --> 00:27:07,929
UFO that you had seen in a cornfield and

606
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:11,409
it just blew me away because i saw a

607
00:27:18,210 --> 00:27:15,279
triangular UFO in a cornfield are you

608
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:18,220
actually was ah totally serious but the

609
00:27:25,049 --> 00:27:21,490
really neat thing about it is prior to

610
00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:25,059
seeing the triangular UFO front of me

611
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:29,230
were up in a tree house up and like

612
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:31,690
right next to the missouri river and we

613
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:34,210
saw like little cigar-shaped UFO

614
00:27:39,420 --> 00:27:37,450
and it was Jack and back and forth

615
00:27:42,750 --> 00:27:39,430
hundreds of feet and we knew right away

616
00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:42,760
you know that's not a plane and it

617
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:44,830
started admitting a little gas or

618
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:47,170
something orange gas from it and it

619
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:48,850
slowed down because it heard me I

620
00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:50,710
started yelling at it you know because

621
00:27:54,810 --> 00:27:52,270
my first instinct was to get its

622
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:54,820
attention knowing that it wasn't a plane

623
00:28:00,360 --> 00:27:56,890
that it was probably intelligently

624
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:00,370
controlled obviously and it slowed down

625
00:28:06,330 --> 00:28:03,130
and went into a kind of a drift and it

626
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:06,340
turned its all its lights off and you

627
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:08,410
could hear this stuff sprang out of it

628
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:14,490
and anyway long story short that UFO was

629
00:28:20,430 --> 00:28:17,110
definitely strange because at one point

630
00:28:22,620 --> 00:28:20,440
I was yelling at it so loudly to get it

631
00:28:24,990 --> 00:28:22,630
to come over closer to us after a little

632
00:28:28,770 --> 00:28:25,000
beam light came out of the bottom oven

633
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:28,780
started like it was scanning and and

634
00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:31,690
yeah and then uh it's also not stopped

635
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:34,150
on a dime turn on like a spotlight on us

636
00:28:39,210 --> 00:28:36,970
and as soon as it did that I got this

637
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:39,220
like mental picture and I'm not joking

638
00:28:44,370 --> 00:28:42,610
of like four beings on board one was

639
00:28:47,850 --> 00:28:44,380
kind of like a little smirk on its

640
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:47,860
little mouth bulbous head hey guys what

641
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:50,080
the first one said also you'd like to

642
00:28:54,750 --> 00:28:52,690
come aboard possibly chopped into you a

643
00:28:56,820 --> 00:28:54,760
thousand different pieces possibly put

644
00:28:59,550 --> 00:28:56,830
back together and possibly sent on your

645
00:29:01,650 --> 00:28:59,560
way we can do that and it's almost like

646
00:29:03,540 --> 00:29:01,660
I got them irritated because I was

647
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:03,550
yelling and I got their attention and I

648
00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:05,890
disturbed their whatever they were doing

649
00:29:12,810 --> 00:29:09,070
and they were being sarcastic with me

650
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:12,820
and I did you know in a mean way and I

651
00:29:17,940 --> 00:29:15,010
jumped out of about a 30-foot tree house

652
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:17,950
along with my friend because we are I

653
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:20,050
got a complete visual picture of it and

654
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:24,640
then we get we ran to his VW got in it

655
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:27,010
took off we didn't want any part of that

656
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:29,650
thing and we were driving down the stir

657
00:29:35,550 --> 00:29:33,010
world farmland country land actually

658
00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:35,560
mowed down corn there was no corn but it

659
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:39,790
normally was would be a cornfield and he

660
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:41,710
wanted to stop and get another look at

661
00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:43,450
this thing I'm like no don't do it man I

662
00:29:47,450 --> 00:29:46,420
got a really bad you know we're from

663
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:47,460
that thing I

664
00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:49,049
we saw something in my head and then

665
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:50,940
scared the living daylights out of me he

666
00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:53,610
said no I'm going to get another look so

667
00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:56,700
he stops a VW and he said I'm going to

668
00:30:02,659 --> 00:29:59,090
try anyway and he gets up on this little

669
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:02,669
ten-foot like plateau where the farm

670
00:30:07,639 --> 00:30:06,210
field was and they walked down in an X

671
00:30:09,649 --> 00:30:07,649
well I'm not going to sit here in the

672
00:30:12,740 --> 00:30:09,659
car alone I'm scared out of my wits

673
00:30:15,289 --> 00:30:12,750
right now so I think I'd be better off

674
00:30:17,659 --> 00:30:15,299
near somebody so I went and kind of

675
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:17,669
followed tailed after him and he was

676
00:30:23,810 --> 00:30:20,570
just standing in this mode downfield

677
00:30:25,549 --> 00:30:23,820
tilled field and I we just did there for

678
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:25,559
about five minutes I said okay come on

679
00:30:30,380 --> 00:30:28,320
nothing's here let's go you know and

680
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,390
also in the black dot started to look

681
00:30:33,620 --> 00:30:32,159
just like kind of like what you were

682
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:33,630
talking about on your description

683
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:37,110
started getting closer as it got closer

684
00:30:41,899 --> 00:30:39,450
this is another vehicle all together as

685
00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:41,909
it got closer a farm light from a

686
00:30:46,490 --> 00:30:44,700
farmhouse lit up kind of the bottom of

687
00:30:51,409 --> 00:30:46,500
it and you could see a perfect

688
00:30:54,049 --> 00:30:51,419
equilateral soft edge triangle with kind

689
00:30:56,659 --> 00:30:54,059
of a pearl gray bottom to it and you

690
00:30:59,299 --> 00:30:56,669
could see what seemed to be a look like

691
00:31:03,049 --> 00:30:59,309
a spaceplane you could see a canopy just

692
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:03,059
off the top of it and and for some

693
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:04,799
reason or other and a little hide light

694
00:31:09,710 --> 00:31:07,049
on the bottom of it no white lights like

695
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:09,720
I think you described on the corners but

696
00:31:15,649 --> 00:31:12,210
it wasn't really gigantic this one was

697
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:15,659
only about 145 feet in circumference and

698
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:18,720
it was only about on and feet above us

699
00:31:24,919 --> 00:31:21,510
when it went over us there was no sound

700
00:31:27,169 --> 00:31:24,929
but nothing nevertheless and they'll

701
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:27,179
wind there was no win they're coming off

702
00:31:32,090 --> 00:31:29,970
that are in the air yet it was shaking

703
00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:32,100
two limbs off the trees that it was

704
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:34,169
going over and the leaves were falling

705
00:31:38,899 --> 00:31:36,330
out because it was October the dried

706
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:38,909
leaves were falling out and but there

707
00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:40,890
was no wind hitting us at all and it was

708
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:43,620
like only about other hundred feet above

709
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:46,799
us you know and anyway chaser when you

710
00:31:51,889 --> 00:31:49,679
told your story I blew me away because I

711
00:31:54,919 --> 00:31:51,899
was like you know what I had a similar

712
00:31:56,779 --> 00:31:54,929
experience smaller triangular object I

713
00:32:00,860 --> 00:31:56,789
believe I think yours was large or do

714
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:00,870
not yeah mine was huge I've Jewish kids

715
00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:01,170
for

716
00:32:05,420 --> 00:32:03,480
us what is your name no my name's you

717
00:32:08,180 --> 00:32:05,430
told me okay as you could say just your

718
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:08,190
first name of ed it's thanks for calling

719
00:32:15,670 --> 00:32:11,510
Tony this was a remarkable remarkable

720
00:32:20,810 --> 00:32:15,680
story I loved it and second win was this

721
00:32:23,140 --> 00:32:20,820
this was in 1986 October of 1986 and he

722
00:32:25,490 --> 00:32:23,150
did admit to make this really really

723
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:25,500
unbelievable and I'm not going out on a

724
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:27,450
limb doing this I'm just telling you the

725
00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:29,910
bullseye truth the next day my friend

726
00:32:33,470 --> 00:32:31,470
said you want to go back out there I

727
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:33,480
said no why no why would I go out there

728
00:32:37,790 --> 00:32:35,730
in the broad daylight nobody sees UFOs

729
00:32:40,190 --> 00:32:37,800
in the bud and we saw two in one night

730
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:40,200
I'm good to go I'm not going to go out

731
00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:42,240
there so he was out there in broad

732
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:44,340
daylight and he comes back shaking like

733
00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:47,250
a leaf and tells me it was totally calm

734
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:49,320
him there was military combing me into

735
00:32:54,610 --> 00:32:51,450
our place there were helicopters flying

736
00:32:57,890 --> 00:32:54,620
around that was corn dog they called us

737
00:33:00,200 --> 00:32:57,900
to his vehicle with a blow horn and told

738
00:33:03,740 --> 00:33:00,210
him to cut his own gym when he drove off

739
00:33:06,260 --> 00:33:03,750
in the area and he was debriefed as if

740
00:33:08,210 --> 00:33:06,270
you know he did something wrong for like

741
00:33:10,820 --> 00:33:08,220
two hours they heard the basically

742
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:10,830
threatens life and told him not to talk

743
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:12,570
about the incident he basically they

744
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:15,090
said what his name was without him

745
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:17,370
pulling his Waldau tartar tellin who he

746
00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:19,770
was they knew everything about him and

747
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:21,960
ago by the way that guy Tony Mitchell

748
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:27,360
would tell him the same thing have you

749
00:33:32,420 --> 00:33:29,370
guys ever gone on to the record and

750
00:33:35,450 --> 00:33:32,430
reported this anywhere that guy and his

751
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:35,460
entire family was excommunicated from

752
00:33:39,650 --> 00:33:37,890
their house hehe i found out when he

753
00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:39,660
came and told me about this broad

754
00:33:45,710 --> 00:33:42,990
daylight situation that his dad he said

755
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:45,720
oh by the way after he told me all this

756
00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:47,760
and mean or don't talk about he says my

757
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:50,400
dad's a full-bird colonel and that's all

758
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:52,050
i can say and then he walked away I

759
00:33:56,780 --> 00:33:54,090
never saw him again tried to go over to

760
00:34:01,040 --> 00:33:56,790
his house his entire house was basically

761
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:01,050
empty no lights on for weeks so I just

762
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:03,330
assumed they you know he moved I asked

763
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:05,250
the neighbors across the street hey what

764
00:34:09,380 --> 00:34:08,130
happened to David and they go ooh and

765
00:34:11,060 --> 00:34:09,390
they acted like they didn't know who I

766
00:34:13,490 --> 00:34:11,070
was talking about which was completely

767
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:13,500
weird because they know exactly who I

768
00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:14,649
was talking about

769
00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:17,679
no it going back hey Johnny yeah where

770
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:20,230
did where did this happen this happen

771
00:34:28,589 --> 00:34:24,690
often Zuri River about I would say about

772
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:28,599
80 miles outside the st. Louis okay and

773
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:31,990
uh south of st. Louis act actually it

774
00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:34,089
was often Zuri rubber I think it was on

775
00:34:42,899 --> 00:34:38,889
North st. Louis if my geographies right

776
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:42,909
it's now one yeah and so anyway that guy

777
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:45,730
disappeared my friend David that is

778
00:34:53,849 --> 00:34:49,839
never to be seen again whoa and his

779
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:53,859
entire family as well oh wow Tony you so

780
00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:56,649
need to email me and I put my email and

781
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:58,930
chat uh just so it's an easy reference

782
00:35:03,660 --> 00:35:01,119
for you out the skype chat that we're

783
00:35:07,140 --> 00:35:03,670
all part of this conversation but it's

784
00:35:09,539 --> 00:35:07,150
chase and as in Nancy p @ yahoo.com like

785
00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:09,549
I just I would love love love to hear

786
00:35:15,630 --> 00:35:11,950
more and maybe get some more details for

787
00:35:18,059 --> 00:35:15,640
sure yeah well I gave I gave you pretty

788
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:18,069
much all the details I'm not really one

789
00:35:23,460 --> 00:35:20,890
to to do too much stuff on the computer

790
00:35:26,490 --> 00:35:23,470
I I know that sounds kind of ironic in

791
00:35:29,630 --> 00:35:26,500
this vantage but I love getting on talk

792
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:29,640
radio shows when there's a ufologist and

793
00:35:34,349 --> 00:35:32,650
you know telling my story went but you

794
00:35:38,579 --> 00:35:34,359
know multiple people are listening

795
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:38,589
because they need to hear it awesome

796
00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:41,440
thanks Tony out thanks come on come for

797
00:35:46,829 --> 00:35:44,500
hey chase let me ask you your your

798
00:35:48,809 --> 00:35:46,839
encounter with the triangle was it

799
00:35:51,779 --> 00:35:48,819
similar I know he made several reference

800
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:51,789
to what happened with you yeah there are

801
00:35:57,059 --> 00:35:54,400
similar similarities not so much the

802
00:35:59,849 --> 00:35:57,069
craft as such or you know the size of it

803
00:36:02,970 --> 00:35:59,859
but there was a lot of similarity and

804
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:02,980
you know when he said that you know when

805
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:04,569
he felt as though the beings were

806
00:36:11,099 --> 00:36:07,089
contacting him it was you know through

807
00:36:13,950 --> 00:36:11,109
more of a telepathy type of thing or the

808
00:36:16,289 --> 00:36:13,960
fact that he saw them you know he he

809
00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:16,299
could hear them there was an image there

810
00:36:22,650 --> 00:36:19,150
was you know I've often wondered if

811
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:22,660
that's how the fear hit us and if if

812
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:26,049
that being now I remember literally

813
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:28,450
seeing it dead to rights it was there

814
00:36:33,630 --> 00:36:31,690
I know what I saw however I don't know

815
00:36:35,819 --> 00:36:33,640
if it was flesh and blood is it

816
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:35,829
mechanical was it a hologram I wouldn't

817
00:36:40,170 --> 00:36:38,079
write it was with the Holograms it we

818
00:36:41,609 --> 00:36:40,180
know yeah we kind of see through them

819
00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:41,619
and they're a little sketchy and skip a

820
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:43,540
little well we're fully capable of

821
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:45,970
creating Holland grant Holograms now oh

822
00:36:53,339 --> 00:36:48,910
yes yes I mean the technique technology

823
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:53,349
right right and so I I mean I can

824
00:37:00,780 --> 00:36:56,650
visualize a technology where they you

825
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:00,790
know beam a light source not necessarily

826
00:37:04,410 --> 00:37:03,250
visible but it creates a hologram in

827
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:04,420
front of you I mean I think that's very

828
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:07,030
doable and I'm not so sure we can't do

829
00:37:14,339 --> 00:37:10,570
it now but I think what he experienced

830
00:37:16,770 --> 00:37:14,349
was more of its a mental telepathy it

831
00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:16,780
was more that the image was you know

832
00:37:22,829 --> 00:37:20,260
embedded in him which is what I suspect

833
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:22,839
that fear was put into us you know that

834
00:37:26,579 --> 00:37:24,640
fear was artificial there was nobody in

835
00:37:28,170 --> 00:37:26,589
that cornfield ready to run we did not

836
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:28,180
run from an alien we were already

837
00:37:33,690 --> 00:37:31,690
running when do we saw it in fact half

838
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:33,700
the people running never even knew it

839
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:35,680
was there well don't think I ya know for

840
00:37:39,870 --> 00:37:38,170
two weeks and didn't didn't some

841
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:39,880
equipment was left behind right I mean

842
00:37:47,370 --> 00:37:44,800
you guys know be Mossad for a reason

843
00:37:48,930 --> 00:37:47,380
that was hard to define right did we

844
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:48,940
were running like freaking scared little

845
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:52,089
girls we didn't think of anything and I

846
00:37:57,930 --> 00:37:54,400
can tell you that I I there was just no

847
00:37:59,700 --> 00:37:57,940
thought we did what we were supposed to

848
00:38:03,750 --> 00:37:59,710
do there was no conscious thought about

849
00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:03,760
it at all but you know so i think what i

850
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:05,950
loved it found most compelling about his

851
00:38:14,059 --> 00:38:09,599
story and his report was literally the

852
00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:14,069
the way he experienced his contact with

853
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:16,960
you know other beings that i just found

854
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:18,880
that very intriguing because that's

855
00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:21,849
probably all though not exact probably

856
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:23,740
the biggest similarity and our stories

857
00:38:30,030 --> 00:38:26,530
other than the triangle you know and the

858
00:38:32,250 --> 00:38:30,040
yo sightings of other craft before this

859
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:32,260
triangle came and then he's got beings

860
00:38:38,130 --> 00:38:34,410
and you know i just it's like oh

861
00:38:40,319 --> 00:38:38,140
goodness no okay well it was he made a

862
00:38:41,609 --> 00:38:40,329
statement about watching the leaves and

863
00:38:43,019 --> 00:38:41,619
the branches

864
00:38:46,349 --> 00:38:43,029
in the fall of the year and they were

865
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:46,359
shaking and I visualized this craft

866
00:38:53,489 --> 00:38:49,839
coming over and seeing electromagnetic

867
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:53,499
energy III don't know that that's what

868
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:54,910
popped into my mind what he was

869
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:57,130
describing was possibility I wanted to

870
00:39:02,130 --> 00:38:59,680
ask him and I and I didn't and maybe if

871
00:39:05,099 --> 00:39:02,140
you have contact with him in the future

872
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,109
is that did they feel any you know like

873
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:07,119
ants cry I've heard other people say it

874
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:08,890
felt like givers tiny ants crawling all

875
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:10,569
over the body when the craft went over

876
00:39:15,930 --> 00:39:13,210
ya know they had static electricity type

877
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:15,940
hey cannon chase let's let's take it we

878
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949
00:43:35,049 --> 00:43:32,779
have there been any reports of UFOs

950
00:43:37,209 --> 00:43:35,059
associated with sightings of Bigfoot and

951
00:43:39,029 --> 00:43:37,219
could be Bigfoot be a dimensional

952
00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:39,039
creature what are your thoughts chase

953
00:43:44,229 --> 00:43:41,630
absolutely in fact that's one of the

954
00:43:46,359 --> 00:43:44,239
reasons i even got involved in looking

955
00:43:49,150 --> 00:43:46,369
for Bigfoot in studying the phenomena

956
00:43:53,459 --> 00:43:49,160
and you know diving deeper was because

957
00:43:56,259 --> 00:43:53,469
almost every time you take a report of

958
00:43:58,569 --> 00:43:56,269
bigfoot if you dig a little deeper and

959
00:44:00,400 --> 00:43:58,579
you know most investigates investigators

960
00:44:03,849 --> 00:44:00,410
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961
00:44:06,249 --> 00:44:03,859
and after and you usually find out that

962
00:44:09,130 --> 00:44:06,259
there's often sightings of strange

963
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lights and things they can't explain

964
00:44:15,489 --> 00:44:11,479
that would be more of a UFO type

965
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:15,499
phenomena associated with Bigfoot and I

966
00:44:22,329 --> 00:44:19,249
just absolutely and I don't want it to

967
00:44:24,099 --> 00:44:22,339
be guys but I am convinced they're

968
00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:24,109
dimensional absolutely that it's a

969
00:44:31,959 --> 00:44:29,599
dimensional type existence crossing over

970
00:44:35,019 --> 00:44:31,969
getting here what they're doing here I

971
00:44:37,539 --> 00:44:35,029
just absolutely I think all the evidence

972
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:37,549
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